I’m Feeling A Little Lightheaded This Afternoon
The following is from earlier today at another location, responding to the continuing crapola re: Reverend Wright and his God Damn America sermon.
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I’ve posted this previously, but, it is clear from the comments, nobody bothered to read it. As yet another public service, please join me in actually finding out what he said. I don’t expect it to convince anyone already dedicated to tearing Barack down, but, at least you can say you actually read it before making irrelevant, foolish comments. Ok, let’s roll……. This could take a while.
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The full story behind Wright’s ‘God Damn America’ sermon by CNN commentator, Roland Martin. (comments in parens by Buzz Daly)
I just finished listening to the nearly 40-minute sermon Rev. Jeremiah Wright gave on April 13, 2003, titled, “Confusing God and Government.”
For those of us watching and listening to the media in the last week, it is better known as the “God Damn America” sermon.
Wright’s scriptural focus was Luke 19:37-44 (reading from the New Revised Standard Version).
In this sermon, Wright spoke about the military rule during biblical days, led by Pontius Pilate. It was clear, through his language, such as “occupying military brigade” that he was making an analogy to the war in Iraq.”
(Many folks believe this, and, one would be hard pressed to describe our continued presence in Iraq, after declaring “Mission Accomplished” as anything other than an occupation, given the inability of our leaders to produce an exit plan. This is not a wacko idea. McCain’s 100 year remark should tell everyone we will be occupying Iraq for a long time, like Germany and Japan, which should make them very happy for some inexplicable reason).
The Rev wins that one.
“War does not make for peace,” he said. “Fighting for peace is like raping for virginity.”
(If he’s wrong, we should be at peace, right? We’ve been at war longer than we were in WW2, with no end in sight, yet, no peace, so, one might say that War does not make Peace and be perfectly correct, especially as it concerns Iraq. This isn’t a Buzz Daly rule, it’s in the Bible, as you will learn if you listen to the Rev.
That’s two in a row for the Rev.)
“War does not make for peace. War only makes for escalating violence and a mindset to pay the enemy back by any means necessary,” he said.
(Yep—one need only look to the MidEast to verify this. It occurs daily.)
Whoa, that’s 3 in a row for Jeremiah. So far: Jeremiah 3-0-0 Jeremiah Haters 0-3-0.
He then gets to the thesis of his sermon, saying, “y’all looking to the government for only what God can give. A lot of people confuse God with their government.”
(Any Libertarians got a view on that? I’m a non-Believer, so I’ll pass on this one.
That one is a draw. Rev 3-0-1 Haters 0-3-1)
Wright criticizes the Bush administration and its supporters for using Godly language to justify the war in Iraq. He equates using God in America as condoning the war in Iraq to the same perspective of Islamic fundamentalists.
(Right on, Rev. Silly claims of having “God’ on their side is a common practice of fools on all sides of a conflict. This is one of the the main points of this sermon. I’m pretty sure if God existed, He would not approve of mere mammals destroying his work. God does not like war. He is a Liberal Peacenik with a long white beard and Guarache sandals, who loves all his creations, not just United States Christians, OK?
Wow, another one for the Rev. That’s 4-0-1 for Jeremiah. 0-4-1 for Haters.)
“We can see clearly the confusion in the mind of a few Muslims, and please notice I did not say all Muslims, I said a few Muslims, who see Allah as condoning killing and killing any and all who don’t believe what they don’t believe. They call it jihad. We can see clearly the confusion in their minds, but we cannot see clearly what it is that we do. We call it crusade when we turn right around and say that our God condones the killing of innocent civilians as a necessary means to an end. WE say that God understand collateral damage. We say that God knows how to forgive friendly fire.”
(Are you starting to get where he’s coming from, yet? Sounds like he loves and trusts God more than Gummint. A wise path to follow in my view (if I believed in godfigures, I mean). Didn’t he just criticize Muslims? How can a Farrakhan lovin’ Marxist criticize Muslims? I thought he was a Muslim lovin’ fool. Something isn’t adding up here, is it?
Another one for Jeremiah. Rev. 6-1-1 Haters 0-6-1.)
“We say that God will bless the shock and awe as we take over unilaterally another country, calling it a coalition because we’ve got three guys from Australia, going against the United Nations, going against the majority of Christians, Muslims and Jews throughout the world, making a pre-emptive strike in the name of God. We cannot see how what we are doing is the same thing is the same thing that Al-Qaeda is doing under a different color flag – calling on the name of a different God to sanction and approve our murder and our mayhem.”
(You got that right, Jeremiah. Another one for the Rev. Rev. 5-1-1 Haters 0-5-1.)
He continues on his thesis of equating government with our God, saying that God sent the early settlers to America to take the country from Native Americans; ordained slavery; and that “we believe that God approves of 6 percent of the people on the face of this earth controlling all of the wealth on the face of this earth while the other 94 percent live in poverty and squalor while we give millions of tax breaks to the white rich.”
(Anyone disagree? I mean besides Karl Rove and the GOP. Why? Isn’t God’s mission to care for all his creations equally? When did that idea become passe? That’s one of my favorite parts of religion. It does seem to be used far too rarely, however.
Rev 6-1-1 Haters 0-6-1)
He also criticizes the “lily white” G-7 nations for controlling the world’s capital.
Group of Seven (G7), international organization officially established in 1985 to facilitate economic cooperation among the world’s largest industrial nations; summit meetings of the member nations began in 1975. Members are Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan, and the United States.
(Hmmm……..Is the Rev onto something, here? With the exception of Japan, whose inhabitants were called Yellow in the past for some reason, (WTF is that all about–yuck) one might come to the same conclusion as Jeremiah did, as to the participant’s pigmentation and focus.
Good job, Jeremiah, another one for you. Let’s see—that’s Jeremiah Wright 7-1-1 Haters 0-7-1. Now, let’s get to the real meat of this issue.)
Then Wright speaks to:
1. Governments lie. “This government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. (it wasn’t ratified, Rev). The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence (Thomas), who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to un-do Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie.”
(That sounds pretty accurate, with the exception of an unproven charge against Justice Thomas, and the Klan remark re: the Court. Surely with all the hyperbole and attacks directed at Jeremiah, he gets a pass for his colorful descriptions of some GOP folks. Other than that, and the exceptions noted, I’m OK with it.
However, because of his inappropriate remarks re: Clarence and the Court, yet, overwhelmingly telling the truth about the rest, I’ll call this one a draw. Rev 7-1-2 Haters 0-7-2. )
“The government lied about Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese were going to attack. Governments lie. The government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin. They wanted that resolution to get us in the Vietnam War. Governments lie. The government lied about Nelson Mandela and our CIA helped put him in prison and keep him there for 27 years. The South African government lied on Nelson Mandela. Governments lie.”
(Don’t know for sure about Pearl Harbor. It was probably an intel screwup, rather than a negligent act. The rest is right on. He’s right about ‘Nam. He’s right about Mandela. I would also like to point out that Jeremiah was an early and constant critic of the SA Gummint and Apartheid, and, supported Mr. Mandela from the beginning.
Definitely another win for Jeremiah. I’m starting to like this guy. Rev Wright 8-0-2 Haters 0-8-2)
“The government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African American men with syphilis. Governments lie. The government lied about bombing Cambodia and Richard Nixon stood in front of the camera, ‘Let me make myself perfectly clear…” Governments lie. The government lied about the drugs for arms Contra scheme orchestrated by Oliver North, and then the government pardoned all the perpetrators so they could get better jobs in the government. Governments lie.
(They sure as hell do, Jeremiah. Not sure about the last part about better jobs in Gummint, but, let’s put another W in the Rev’s column. Rev. 9-0-2 Haters 0-9-2)
“The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of people of color. Governments lie. The government lied about a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein and a connection between 9.11.01 and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Governments lie.
(NOW we’re gettin’ to the nitty gritty. This is apparently one of the overly “offensive” claims that seem to have created a bundle in many folks Fruit of The Looms. Let’s analyze it. Sorry, Rev. you’ve screwed the pooch on this one, Bud. I think the REV has fallen for a widely circulated inaccurate report from some intel jagoffs in Eastern Europe that claimed this, and, circulated a bogus document to support it. Dan Rather reported it on his so-called news show. Bad Reverend. However, the next point about Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein is correct and is accepted by nearly everyone, except Dick Cheney and GWB and a few of their most ardent backside smooching supporteres.
Let’s split this one. Another draw. Rev 9-0-2 Haters 0-9-2.)
“The government lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq being a threat to the United States peace. And guess what else? If they don’t find them some weapons of mass destruction, they gonna do just like the LAPD, and plant the some weapons of mass destruction. Governments lie.
(Now this one seems a bit of a stretch, as to actually planting WMDs like the LAPD uses “throw downs”, but “throw downs” are real, and, they exist. However, there were no WMDs, so he’s right on that one. Damn, Rev–you’re doin’ pretty good. Rev 10-0-3 Haters 0-10-3. Here’s where Jeremiah gets Revved up.)
2. Governments change. He said long before the United States colonized the world, so did Egypt.
“All colonizers are not white. Turn to your neighbors and say that oppressors come in all colors.”
(Hmmmm……….what about this? Surely an anti-White bigot wouldn’t say something like this, would he? Sounds like he doesn’t like oppressors of any color. I agree with him.
Damn, Rev, I’m gonna’ hafta’ start callin’ you “Butter”, cause you’re on a roll. Rev. 11-0-2 Haters 0-11-2)
He then went back to the Bible and spoke about the changing of kings in Babylonia.
“Prior to Abraham Lincoln, the government in this country said it was legal to hold Africans in slavery in perpetuity…when Lincoln got in office, the government changed. Prior to the passing of the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution, government defined Africans as slaves, as property. Property, people with no rights to be respected by any whites anywhere. The Supreme Court of the government, same court, granddaddy of the court that stole the 2000 election. Supreme court said in it’s Dred Scott decision in the 1850s, no African anywhere in this country has any rights that any white person has to respect at any place, any time. That was the government’s official position backed up by the Supreme Court – that’s the judiciary; backed up by the executive branch – that’s the president; backed up by the legislative branch and enforced by the military of the government. But I stop by to tell you tonight that government’s change.”
(I can’t disagree with that. Rev 13-0-2 Haters 0-13-2 )
“Prior to Harry Truman’s government, the military was segregated. But governments change.
(Yep. No points for the obvious.)
“Prior to the Civil Rights and equal accommodation laws of the government in this country, there was backed segregation by the country, legal discrimination by the government, prohibited blacks from voting by the government, you had to eat and sit in separate places by the government, you had sit in different places from white folks because the government said so, and you had to buried in a separate cemetery. It was apartheid, American style, from the cradle to the grave, all because the government backed it up.
(That’s true, my Brother. Tell it).
“But guess what? Governments change. Under Bill Clinton, we got a messed up welfare to work bill, but under Clinton blacks had an intelligent friend in the Oval Office. Oh, but governments change.”
“The election was stolen. We went from an intelligent friend to a dumb Dixiecrat. A rich Republican who has never held a job in his life; is against affirmative action (and) against education – I guess he is; against healthcare, against benefits for his own military, and gives tax breaks to the wealthiest contributors to his campaign. Governments change. Sometimes for the good, and sometimes for the bad.”
(Well put, Bro.)
“Where governments change, God does not change. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. That’s what his name I Am means. He does not change.
God was against slavery on yesterday, and God, who does not change, is still against slavery today. God was a God of love yesterday, and God who does not change, is still a God of love today. God was a God of justice on yesterday, and God who does not change, is still a God of justice today.
“God does not change.”
(It would be inappropriate for a non-Believer to get involved in this one. Again, no points.)
3. He then speaks of the government in his Bible text and said the Romans failed. Then he said the British government failed even after it colonized the world. He said the Russian government failed. The Japanese government failed. The German government failed.
(True).
“And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent, she failed. She put them on reservations.
(True).
“When it came to putting her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in interment prison camps.
(True. They were even paid, so protestations of the validity of restricting citizen rights during war are as bogus now as they were then. )
“When it came to putting the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them scientific experiments. Put them in the lower paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law. Kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education, and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness.
(Yep.)
“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That’s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.”
(With the exception of the drug part, I think he has shown justification for his choice to “God Damn America”. Or, do you think the America he mostly describes accurately, should be blessed for such a history? )
“The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent. Think about this. Think about this. For every one Oprah, a billionaire, you’ve got 5 million blacks that are out of work. For every one Colin Powell, a millionaire, you’ve got 10 million blacks who cannot read. For every one Condi-Skeezer Rice, you’ve got 1 million in prison. For every one Tiger Woods, who needs to get beat at the Masters, with his Cablanasian hips, playing on a course that discriminates against women, God has this way of brining you up short when you get to big for your Cablanasian britches. For every one Tiger Woods, we’ve got 10,000 black kids who will never see a golf course. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.”
(Although I have no idea what Balanasian britches are, I dig his delivery and enthusiastic presentation. I would add, however, that Black folks aren’t the only ones who our Gummint has failed. I would also note that Tiger Woods has a foundation whose main function is teaching golf to minority kids without access to facilities or the means to purchase instruction. Bad Reverend. I’m tired of scoring this contest, and I think I already messed up the math, but, the trend is clear to me. It seems to me the Reverend speaks a lot of truth.)
“Tell your neighbor he’s (going to) help us one last time. Turn back and say forgive him for the God Damn, that’s in the Bible though. Blessings and curses is in the Bible. It’s in the Bible.”
(Apparently, Sean Hannity and 95% of America didn’t read this far. Doesn’t quite sound like the wild-eyed raving maniac he’s described as to me).
Where government fail, God never fails. When God says it, it’s done. God never fails. When God wills it, you better get out the way, ‘cause God never fails. When God fixes it, oh believe me it’s fixed. God never fails. Somebody right now, you think you can’t make it, but I want you to know that you are more than a conqueror through Christ. You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.”
(Geezus! Where do I sign up? That was pretty good.)
He then went on to talk about the salvation of Christians through the death of Jesus Christ. The sermon ended with a song proclaiming, “God never fails”.
This doesn’t seem to be all that Marxist to me, and, hardly the words of a hater and anti-American bigot who should be sent out of the country in my view. Did I miss something?
So, there you have it my friends. That horrid sermon that has been the toast of the airwaves for weeks and weeks. Not that scary, eh? Thanks for finally reading it. (if you did).
The losers in this debacle are O’Bama and the media and all those who think soundbites are news. They aren’t. So, please feel free to pick apart the Rev’s sermon and provide us with factual inaccuracies as to what he says. Or, would it be easier to move on to something relevant?



